First we headlined the “Racists at Coup 4.5”. Then the “Bombers at Coup 4.5”. Now we have the “Assassins at Coup 4.5”. Yes, folks, incredibly the principal anti-regime blog is now advocating the killing of what one contributor describes as “the Muslim terrorist” – Fiji’s Attorney General and second most senior figure in the government, Aiyaz Sayed Khaiyum. Coinciding with the police raids in New Zealand over an alleged plot to kill the AG and Prime Minister Frank Bainimarama, it’s yet another sign of the desperation among the regime’s opponents as Fiji moves towards the restoration of democracy. Unfortunately, the tenor of that opposition is becoming increasingly sinister.
It’s an outrage that a website anywhere in the world would allow such a posting to pass the gatekeeper. And let’s be quite clear. There is simply no excuse because every comment submitted to this fetid cyber-slum is screened in advance. In an extraordinary act of hypocrisy for a supposed crusader for “democracy”, any comment that Coup 4.5 doesn’t agree with is routinely censored and rejected. These can be merely mildly supportive of aspects of government policy. Yet the truth is that these great “democrats” – who include some who pose as respectable citizens – are purveyors of the very brand of racism and violence that the Bainimarama government is pledged to eradicate.
Judge for yourself. At 11.02am on Wednesday July 18th 2012, an anonymous contributor says: “Someone should just volunteer to kill Aiyaz for the sake of Viti (Fiji) and the citizens of this beloved country. We can send you one SAS BA ( Special Air Services of the British Army ) if you guys can’t do it”. Oh really? Fabulous. The SAS – the most elite force in the British Army – is a training ground for Fijian assassins? It certainly gives new meaning to the SAS motto “He who dares, wins”. Is this person mad, a viavialevu (big noter) or is he serious? It doesn’t matter. Coup 4.5 should never have published this travesty.
It was preceded by the following posting at 10.58, again anonymous: “Why is (sic) the people of Fiji bowing down to that Muslim terrorist, Aiyaz? O cei na tamana kei tinana? (Who is his father and mother?) O cei o koya vei keda na itaukei? (who is he to we I’Taukei?) You people should stand and do something about him before its too late!
The contributor goes on to talk about the Attorney General’s alleged influence on the Prime Minister before an extraordinary diatribe about his alleged promotion of the Chinese cause. Sa varau qori na compulsory vuli vosa vajaina! (They’re about to make the Chinese language compulsory in schools) Viti sa vakarau volitaki i China (Fiji is about to be sold to China) coz Fiji cant pay back its external borrowings from the Govt of the Republic of China! ( Eds note. This lunatic seems to be confusing Taiwan with China, the People’s Republic.
And then : Ni yadra mada ni kila na ka e yaco tiko i loma ni office vakamatanitu!. (Wake up to what’s happening at the centre of Government)…moce VT!! (Goodbye Fiji) Ni vakamatei koya e initiate taka tiko na master plan! (Kill the person who is initiating the master plan!)
This incitement to the killing of any human being is unforgivable, especially in the Fiji context. Coup 4.5 is a coward’s castle in which every article is anonymous except for a handful from mainstream commentators. So it’s time for those commentators – notably Professor Wadan Narsey and the Oxford-based investigative journalist Victor Lal – to face some questions. Do you – Narsey and Lal – endorse the sentiments expressed on Coup 4.5? Do you think that they are appropriate in the Fiji context, or indeed in any context? Will you publicly repudiate and disassociate yourselves from this incitement to kill a fellow Fijian? Why do you allow your writing to add lustre to an anonymous scandal sheet that not only purveys lies and disinformation but advocates violence? It’s time for those who do put their names to Coup 4.5 to declare themselves, to say whether they support these sentiments or reject them. Because right now, their silence implies one of two things – tacit support or turning a blind eye.
This article has subsequently appeared in the Fiji Sun.
Its not only Coup 4.5 that promotes assassinations.
Go examine the ‘Back to Democracy’ section set up and maintained by by Suli Daunitutu on the ‘Matavuvale’ website and you will read more of this sick, fetid racist effluent being peddled by these so called democrats in the pro-democracy movement. One Sai Lealea of the NZ pro-democracy movement in Wellington has publicy cried out on one of his postings on Suli’s ‘Back to Democracy’ blog, that he dreamt of the Interim government in Fiji being assassinated and it made him happy!
the irony is that all these so called democrats blogging and baying for blood are all doing so from the secure confines of democratic nations. For example, Suli Daunitutu from Queanbyean in Australia, Sai Lealea from Wellington, NZ and of course that other fat idiot, Loruama Tawawili, Presdient of the US Branch of the ‘Back to Democracy’ movement posting from Wisconsin, in the good old USA.
The ‘Matavuvale’ website was set up and is administered by the wife of an ex RFMF military officer who was granted refugee status in USA. They are the gatekeepers of this website which hosts these murderous ideas all in the name of democracy.
Mere Samisoni has posted on this ‘Back to Democracy’ website. So too does Jese Sikivou, the political advisor to Teimumu Kepa.
Bird of a feather, flock together! For sure
administerd by a the wife o a former Fiji Army offocer in the US (ths guy and his wife sought refugee asylum in the US) and you will also
Graham, why are you associating and shielding a Frank who was wanted for questioning over the murders of CRW soldiers:
Monday, March 19, 2012
Details of death of CRW soldier Selesitino Kalounivale revealed
Dictator Frank Bainimarama’s violent paroxysm of revenge against innocent CRW soldier Selesitino Kalounivale following November 2000 mutiny at Delainabua barracks
Brigadier-General Mohammed Aziz stopped police interview when soldier confessed to killing CRW soldiers on dictator’s orders
Kalounivale’s post-mortem report went missing from Police and DPP files
By VICTOR LAL
Aziz (right) with Bainimarama and Aseri Rokoura
On 26 July 2004 Fiji’s present dictator Commodore Frank Bainimarama, while fielding questions from the media regarding the bloody 2 November 2000 mutiny at the Delainabua barracks in Suva angrily retorted: “But somebody should ask why they came into the camp? Did they come in for a picnic or what? There is such a thing known as karma – that is you come in to kill someone and you get killed in the end that is your bad luck.”
He was referring to the Counter Revolutionary Warfare Unit soldiers who tried to kill him for betraying them after having ordered them to overthrow the Peoples Coalition Government of Mahendra Chaudhry. Bainimarama had cowardly escaped with his bodyguards by bolting through the cassava patch, and later took refuge at the naval base in Walu Bay, clearly shaken and frightened for his life.
Worst, he had arrived at the naval base emitting an odious wafting body smell – according to some of the naval officers who received him that day the dictator had defecated in his pants from sheer fright.
The dead soldiers who, according to the dictator met their Karmic fate were as follows: Jone Kamoe Davui, Iowane Wasaroma, Epineri Bainimoli and Selesitino Kalounivale.
But according to a “Briefing Paper – CRW Murder Investigation’ in my possession by a senior assistant police superintendent, the above CRW soldiers were beaten to death and murdered. He wrote: “On 2nd November during the Mutiny at the Fiji Military Force Headquarters in Nabua, the following CRW members were brought to the Army Camp from Central Police Station and Nabua Police Station by a group of soldiers.
They were taken into the cell by members of 3FIR, where they were beaten to death and murdered. Our investigation was conducted into the deaths of the above whilst the mutiny investigations continue. The investigation has revealed that this was a case of Murder as the deceased were not all involved in the mutiny. They were all brought in by a group of soldiers from outside the camp.”
The Case of Murdered Selesitino Kalounivale
Kalounivale was definitely one of the innocent CRW soldiers who had played no part in the mutiny that day.
http://www.coupfourandahalf.com/2012/03/details-of-death-of-crw-soldier.html
Come on, you bloody cry baby hypocrite and to faced JANUS and JUDAS
Continued
And we have his infamous interview with the Australian journalist Graham Davis in 2009:
Davis: Did you want them dead?
Dictator: I didn’t want them dead but I wanted them punished – You must understand it was a mutiny. These guys came in to kill us – I don’t think a lot of people understand that? These guys came in to kill us. So people really don’t expect us to kiss them on their cheeks.
Again, Kalounivale had never gone to kill the dictator nor had gone to be “kissed on the cheek” by him. Kalounivale had taken no part in the bloody mutiny on that day.
One of these days I will be revealing how Kalounivale was battered to death, and how Brigadier-General Mohammed Aziz, then army legal officer, had stopped police interview when one of the soldiers confessed to KILLING Kalounivale and the other CRW soldiers on the dictator’s orders. I will be naming that murderous soldier whom the dictator has protected since 2000. I will be also disclosing the horrifying contents of the missing post-mortem report, and other details, to disprove the dictator’s claim that he carried out the coup to weed out corruption and to give the descendants of Indian coolies’ equality in post-coup Fiji.
The dictator carried out the coup to escape prosecution, for among the charges he was facing shortly before the 2006 coup was the murders of Kalounivale and the other CWR soldiers.
Suli Daunitutu, Queanbyean Australia; Sai Lealea, Wellington, NZ; fat, good for nothing, dole-dependent idiot, Loruama Tawawili, Wisconsin; are terrorists inciting terrorism in Fiji using their adopted countries as a safe haven.
From the tone of their postings, it is fair to ask if they are plotting something serious like bombing and assassinations. They should be reported to the local authorities, who should investigate them, or at least keep an eye of them and kick them out if they breach their visas.
These useless dole bludgers who did nothing for Fiji and or achieve anything much should not be allowed ro get away with their dangerous ploys and incitements.
The authorities should not take these people lightly – they remind one of the dangerous Tamil diaspora who used to fund and support terrorist activates back in their homeland.
Fiji can and will solve its problems without bloodshed, as it always has.
The question is, why are Australian, NZ and US taxpayers paying for these dole bludgers and providing them a safe haven and base to incite terrorism in Fiji and endanger the lives and economy of a country?
Why are their host countries allowing them to promote their murderous ideas all in the name of democracy and propagate hateful Ideas designed to cause major discord and upheaval in Fiji?
Are the Australian, NZ, US authorities sleeping on the job? On the one-hand they talk about the fight against terror, other other hand their inaction against terrorist elements like Daunitutu, Lealea and Loruama Tawawili is tantamount to harbouring, aiding and abetting terrorists.
Fiji has never had large scale violence. But, with Australia, NZ and the US harboring criminals elements, hate-mongers, and racists and terroists inciting violence and murder and bombmaking, the country could well implode.
Can someone report Suli Daunitutu, Sai Lealea dole-dependent idiot, Loruama Tawawili so that they can be investigated?
Nasty, divisive, dangerous hate-monger Mere Samisoni, the female version of George Speight, sees imagined threats from a depleted and depleting Indo-Fijian population – so much for her PhD and analytical abilities. But racial hate can do that you. Even her own kind dislikes her for her unbearable arrogance and haughtiness, so what is Mere going on about?
@Hate mongers
they are the regimes best friends, so dont get so down on them ol’ chap.
if you had a crediable “D” movement, situation might not be so rosy for VB & ASK, so count your blessings.
look at it from their point of view, VB got rid of Labour Party and supported the nationalist take over of parliment house with hostages.VB then installed LQ and his nationalist gang.
so give the lads some slack, they are confused,so is democracy.
All this talk about an assassination is like a bamboo gun, too much sound and harmless. All those democracy advocates in Australia, NZ and USA including Roko Ului are a bunch of cowards too much talk kali bhat.
The rule of law died in Fiji a long time ago. Why would you be surprised when people openly plot things like this? When the supreme law of the land (the constitution) is simply ignored by the military, then they have no right to be outraged when things like this start happening.
Bainimarama and co – live by the sword, die by the sword.
Petelo,
Easy and cowardly for people who do not live here to incite.
They will not suffer the consequences.
We do not need a handful of dubious dole-bludgers with vested interestes who have achieved nothing for Fiji stirring trouble.
It’s not only Bainimarama and co who will die by the sword.
The whole country will suffer, development will be put back by decades, poverty of opportunity, which we already suffer from, will only increase, especially for future generations.
You, however, have a rather simplistic, naive and short-sighted, quick-fix take on things.
You do not seem to understand about development and the economy.
You have a very plain and straightforward take on issues, such as two wrongs make a right.
This kind of ‘black and white’ understanding found in some simple folk is easily manipulable and quite dangerous on its own right.
The only people who will gain from any upheaval are the SDL political cronies and their ethno-nationalist supporters overseas.
Rest of Fiji will be screwed yet again, and suffer for decades.
Upheaval is so unnecessary: we are headed towards a solution anyway.
But this is beyond your understanding or care Petelo since you will not be affected.
Simplistic but quite the truth. Solving systematic inequalities by overthrowing the government is just dumb. It simply creates new grievances that will not be resolved by repression. Bainimarama’s coup was essentially the first Indian coup in Fiji. It won’t be forgotten by those in the vanua. Bainimarama’s coup has simply prolonged political instablity in Fiji.
You are right about Bainimarama’s coup having prolonged instability. You are wrong to say it was an Indian coup. Again you simplicity misunderstanding of vanua politics are exposed.
There is far more intrigue in vanua politics than meets the eye. Fijian politicians are far more astute than you give them credit for. They leave their Indian counterparts for dead when it comes to plotting, planning, scheming, stabbing, knifing, maneuvering for power, etc.
Indians are merely a front.
If government has always been in your hand, you own all the resources, you benefit from affirmative action, business grants, scholarships, preferences for jobs, etc., and still lag behind, you need to look within.
The systematic inequalities you are talking about is being perpetuated by Fijian elites who are milking the system eg the Qarase and Fijian holdings, where 80% of FHL shares were given to well conneected taukei individuals and their families, as pointed out by Pious.
But as a loyal Qarase supporter, you will of course blame Indians, majority of whom are poor and work their butts off to survive, but they are easy targets and convenient scapegoats.
‘Indian problem’ is taking care of itself anyway, and while Indians continue to shoulder the blame, predatory elite taukei continue to take advantage and prey on their own kind, but all this is probably beyond your comprehension Petelo.
Coup apologists like you make me laugh: “It is right and just to overthrow the government because Qarase and his mates have 80% shareholdings in Fiji Holdings Ltd”. Yeah well, my local shopkeeper monopolises the village trade in everyday goods, I think he is milking the system, so I might go down and overthrow his shop and take all his goods. Most people with a brain would simply call that “armed robbery”, but coup apologists like yourself would probably be looting the shop after I had left.
You are right. The itaukei chiefs will be biding their time and they will get Bainimarama. They won’t care whether it is next week, next month, or five years down the track. He is a marked man for the rest of his life.
Petelo
Direct your comment to samoa and your PM Tuilapepa or toilet paper whatever his name is. Keep out of Fijis business.
When the boot was on the other foot, the Indo-Fijians did not hesitate to contemplate armed struggle. Victor Lal was part of that Indo-Fijian conspiracy to bring down the Sitiveni Rabuka regime. As one of Rabuka’s intelligence officers, we had asked for his own extradition from England to Fiji but the Kahan judgment prevented it. At least, we Fijians, have not resorted to arms smuggling, except for a failed mutiny by a handful of soldiers against Frank Bainimarama. Victor Lal’s name and address was also found in Anirudh Singh’s address and note books when we interrogated Singh for planning to burn down Suva and other centres in protect against the 1990 pro-i taukei Constitution. What is my point – its clear – There is No Easy Walk to Freedom
Raw Fiji News, 16 April 2009
The Guns of Lautoka – Silent Menace
By VICTOR LAL
In January 1988, I received a telephone call at Oxford from an Indo-Fijian gentleman in London (who later turned out be a career criminal). He wanted to come up and discuss with me the ongoing racial persecution of Indo-Fijians following the racially motivated 1987 coups executed by Sitiveni Rabuka. The caller had seen me on British television explaining the background to the racial conflict in our country. I hesitantly agreed to meet him. He came down and we went to an Indian restaurant to discuss Fiji and her problems over rice and chicken curry.
The man looked familiar but I could not recollect where and when I had met him previously. He spoke with passion and determination, and seemed to be a man with a deadly mission. As the night progressed, I confronted him: ‘Ah, aren’t you the chap who threatened to chop my hands off if I wrote a story on you after you were arrested by Fiji police following a warrant for your arrest from the Interpol for selling fictitious islands that did not exist.’
It was in 1980. He pulled himself up, took a sip of the red wine that we were drinking, and calmly said to me: ‘Yes, but that was all in the past. Today, we the people of Fiji, are suffering under a despotic ruler, and the Indo-Fijians are being forced to accept a second girmit in the name of bogus indigenous Fijian rights.’ I replied, ‘Yes, but what can we do, except to raise international protests, since the Aussies, the Kiwis, and the Americans, have washed their hands off, and have recognised the illegitimate Rabuka government.’
He again calmly replied: ‘They may have washed their hands off but our people are prepared to bathe in blood – Indo-Fijian blood.’ I tried to fob off his chilling statement, but was equally eager to dig deeper, the typical journalistic blood still flowing in my veins. The Indo-Fijians are hapless, and where will they get arms to rise up against the dictator, I asked him. He calmly replied: ‘Don’t worry, I have sent tons of “firecrackers” to Fiji. While we are drinking, they are on their way to Lautoka, and are destined for several sugarcane farms from where we will be launching a long and bloody guerrilla war against the dictator and his racist Fijian foot soldiers. I have already bought three used Korean fishing vessels, and it will be arriving with a thousand fully-armed Korean looking Hindu and former elite Nepalese Gurkha troops as ‘an insurance cover’. Some of these ex-Gurkhas will head for Suva, Nausori airport area, and the rest for Sigatoka, where they will blend in with the local Hindu Nepalese community there. Some of our boys are going to also hijack Air Zealand and Qantas jetliners to prevent Australia and New Zealand from intervening (Amjad Ali, later an FLP MP, did try to hijack an Air Zealand airliner in Nadi). Fijians are in for a surprise, so is Rabuka, and the world. By the way, even some Fijians are part of the plot.’
At the end of the night, we parted company. The next day I mentioned to my academic supervisor, who had drafted the 1970 Constitution of Fiji, the contents of the chilling conversation. ‘Do you believe him,’ he asked me. ‘No’, I replied. ‘He was, and maybe still is, an international fraudster, that is for sure. Also, some of my family members from my father’s side in Sigatoka are of Nepalese origin and are law-abiding and peaceful people’. ‘Ok, but to protect yourself, you should drop me a note of the contents of the meeting, in case he proves us wrong’.
Surprise, surprise, he did prove us wrong. I woke up to read a chilling headline in one of the newspapers, ‘The Guns of Lautoka’. And the man behind the huge shipment of arms was none other than the man in the Oxford restaurant, an international careerist criminal and Fiji-born Mohammed Rafiq Kahan. I immediately phoned him in London but there was no reply. In fact, he was in Fiji overseeing the unloading of the huge range of weapons that were being transferred to various secret locations in the western division.
I later learnt that the 40 tons of weapons that the Australian Federal Police and Customs had also seized in Sydney, was also bound for Lautoka. The Australian leg of the shipment was only discovered because a fellow Indo-Fijian for a fistful of Australian dollars had allegedly betrayed the Indo-Fijian contact of his in Sydney. Undeterred, Kahan told later told his Indo-Fijian gun-hungry handlers: ‘I wanted you to test the guns that we are going to supply to our brothers here because Fiji is making a fool of itself in the world. There are traitors running this country. The arms were brought to Fiji for the protection of the Indo-Fijian people during civil disturbances.’
Meanwhile, in a state of frantic panic, Rabuka and his henchmen launched a massive swoop on the suspected gunrunners, netting among others, the late Ratu Mosese Tuisawau (a Fijian Rewan chief), and charging him and 21 others with conspiracy to ‘instigate invasion and conspiracy to import arms and ammunition into Fiji’. What about the mastermind Kahan?
He had already quietly slipped out of Fiji under one of the many aliases, but was later arrested by the New Scotland Yard’s Criminal Branch in London. While waiting for extradition to Fiji, he engaged the legal services of VICTOR, LISSACK & ROSCOE SOLICITORS, 8 Bow Street, Covent Garden, London, who instructed Alun Jones, QC, to appear for Kahan. When Kahan appeared in the world-famous Bow Street Magistrates Court (later General Pinochet also appeared before it) on 8 September 1988 under the Fugitive Offenders Act, the Court was told that Rabuka’s extradition warrant was of purely political reasons and that if extradited to Fiji, Kahan will not receive a fair trial, if he receives a trial at all.
After a lengthy hearing the Court ruled in Kahan’s favour; Fiji was, after all, an apartheid state in the South Pacific, and there was likelihood of Kahan, a descendant of Indian coolie ancestry, not getting a fair hearing. Also, that the post-coup Fiji judiciary was now stuffed with Rabuka’s men and sympathisers, especially in the DPP, in the person of Major Isikeli Mataitoga, the media spokesman and coup sympathiser for the military in 1987. Today the same Mataitoga is a beneficiary of another coup – had become a High Court judge and is being touted as the next illegal Chief Justice of Fiji.
Detective Sergeant Barry Waterman of New Scotland Yard arrested Kahan on 22 July 1988, and took away with him a brown briefcase. It consisted of a list of exhibits outlining a grand scheme of plans to ferment an insurrection against military strongman Rabuka and those hell-bent on consigning Indo-Fijians to second-class citizenship. Kahan’s diary of January 1988 is of frightening significance: it contained a list of weapons Kahan had taken down from a phone call, destined for the oppressed Palestinians but which was now diverted to Fiji. Among the January list of names, contacts, and various meetings, was one that included that chilling meeting in the Indian restaurant in Oxford.
In 1988, a jubilant Kahan walked out a free man from the notorious Brixton Prison where he was being held pending the extradition ruling. I on the other hand, began receiving credible and repeated death threats from the Rabuka regime, which wrongly presumed that I was a part of the gunrunning plot. Curiously, Kahan was wanted in Fiji not for gunrunning but treason: plotting to overthrow Rabuka and his fellow treasonists.
As Alun Jones told the court: it is quite extraordinary that a traitor should be seeking extradition, it is an affront to justice. Kahan, on the other hand, now began claiming that the guns were sent at the request of the late Ratu Sir Kamisese Mara, the late Jone Veisamasama (who had died from an ‘accidental’ gun shot wounds shortly before an appointment with the British High Commission in Suva to tell his side of the story) and Colonel Pio Wong. One of these days I will reveal the real story behind the arms shipment, and which country was behind the purchase and shipment of it to Fiji.
Whatever is the truth, and as Rabuka later claimed, two thirds of the container of arms were still missing (and presumably still are) at the time of Kahan’s arrest. And when the 1990 draft Constitution was being prepared to entrench perpetual Fijian supremacy in the country, the Indo-Fijian leaders, while warning of a ‘Sri Lanka’, told the Constitution Review Committee: ‘Racism, which the Government and the draft Constitution have elevated to high dogma, is a cancer which will destroy our body politic. There is no doubt that it will lead to terrible violence. Just because those who had been oppressed have not hit back is no reason to believe that they will forever remain compliant. The time will undoubtedly come when their patience will run out and, refusing to submit to further humiliation and deprivation, they will retaliate.’
I am sure the same applies today – except it will be the native Fijians who will be repeating the above lines. And unlike the Indo-Fijians, the i-taukei through their kith and kin has access to the Fiji army’s armoury. The Indo-Fijians and other disgruntled Fijians, or more precisely Kahan and a close circle of his ‘men’, proved how easy it was to get the arms – all that was needed was the will to overthrow an oppressive regime.
The now abrogated 1997 Constitution averted a bloodbath in paradise.
Rabuka’s Intelligence Spook, it’s wrong to castigate the entire Indian community for the actions of a few reckless, criminal elements. Fijians greatest fear, understandably, was political domination by Indians. But Indians numbers are down, and declining, while Fijian numbers are up. Indian threat is no longer there. Fiji has always solved its problems peacefully. This time should be no different. Both Indians and fijians will lose out is there is any violence. Fijian rule is inevitable and imminent. No one can stop it. It is coming. We respect the democracy movement’s right to protest and instigate change, but within lawful means, which can be very effective. Country can make a smooth transition to democracy. Both social and economic recovery will be easier. Before any action we need to think about the future generation. It our duty to build a good country for our children. So let’s stop this nonsense about assassinations and revolutions because there is really no need for it.
@ Rabuka’s Intelligence Spook
You are still trapped in history my friend. A whole new generation, maybe two, have grown up since 1987 and the Kahan affair. It has no relevance to the present and, more importantly, how young people will vote in 2014.
As for relying on Victor Lal as a credible source!…my Tom Cat too has certain views with contacts in the neighbourhood tpo back him up when the ‘heat’ is on!
@ SAS
You make it out that Kalounivale was a saint or a hero!. He was the chief thug who led the close protection group for George Speight at Parliament House. Even thougb he was married he was distributing comdom to this thugs in their orgy and debasement of Fiji’s parliament. Go look at some YouTube takes of him advising George Spoeight and of leading the group of thugs who trahed Fiji TV One complex.
When he was caught he had detonators in his backpack. What for? Whats a so-called professional soldier (according to you) walking the streets of Suva with detonators in his possession?
It was not Frank who took him out of Samabula Police station cell. It was John Baleidrokadroka’s men! They were the ones who took over QEB and detained the CRW rebels.
You acknowledge that Frank was at the Naval base in Walu after the escape through the tavioka patch.
You should be asking Baleidrokadroka who now enjoys Aussie residency there in Oz.
Yes but Indo-Fijians didnt hesitate to confront Rabuka so why shouldnt the Fijians confront Frank?
That coolie Indo-Fijian Victor Lal was part of the inner-circle who had shipped those arms to kill Fijians in Fiji, so that he and others could take over Fiji from us – you can ask Ratu Inoke Kubuabola.
Listen up “Rabuka’s Intelligence Spook”, it is NOT acceptable for you to refer to Victor Lal as a “coolie”. It is a derogatory and offensive term. I don’t want to add you to the banned list here ( Wilson Tamanikaira and Tupuola Terry Tavita ) but I will if you repeat this slur or make any other similarly racist remark . As I’ve said several times before, I don’t believe in censoring posts here but consider yourself warned.
Whoa…I am not Indo-Fijian…not that it matters one little bit…but this racial derogatory name calling has no place in the new Fiji. We are all Fijians.
@ Rabuka Intelligence Spook
You sound like a ‘rebranded’ poster who used the same racist brands to refer to others. I have come across this type of ‘branding’ before on Grubsheet.
Sounds like another one of those ‘pro democracy’ types who cant see past their own racial prejudices.
Tamata sega ni kila na Lotu o iko. E da tautauvata kecega e matana na turaga na Kalou Bula e da qarava tiko (we are same in the eyes of God regardless of our colour).
Laki masu tiko va’kaukauwa me dola kina na matamu e sa boko tiko oqori. (Go pray a lot to open your blindness)
Well, if Victor Lal was part of the Indo-Fijian group who stood up to Rabuka, so what – he by extension stood up also for deposed Prime Minister Dr Timoci Bavadra and other native Fijians who had voted for the FLP-NFP Coalition government that was deposed by Rabuka in 1987.
Aiyaz Sayed Khaiyum is completing what Victor Lal and others had set out to achieve in 1987 – to dispossess us, i-taukei, in our own land
Listen buster, no one is trying to deprive the i’Taukei of anything. This is classic scaremongering of the worst kind – an attempt to manipulate and fuel the fears of ordinary people for base political purposes. Take your message of intolerance and hate somewhere else.
Do you think ANYBODY believes this nonsense any more that INDIANS want to take ANYTHING?
If you do then see a doctor at ST GILES u need help
@ Tagi ni Taukei
Yadra mai. E sa veisau o gauna. O se tiko ga e loma ni keli e sa toso o vuravura
(Wake up. Time has changed. You’re still stuck in the gutter while the world has moved on).
Na cava o se tagica tiko? Lako va’qara na nomu bula e na vuravura rarama. Sa rauta mada na kanawaca tiko.
(What are you still crying for? Go seek a better life in a more enlightend world. Enough of wanting to bludge on others and rely on handouts etc)
As alarming as it may be, certain academics easily embrace terrorist intervention in support of their idealism and are able to skillfully make full use of the multi NGO agencies and their facilities that are usually used to advocate human, animal, green and ocean rights to promote their own cause. Employees of these agencies – not all of them, just the naive ones, cooperate fully.
All the anti-affected ones quickly find themselves (yes, Anonoymous “birds of a feather”) and together off they set battering their bitter and confused wings into a head wind that takes them nowhere.
Sad really, they could be doing something more useful.
Mona, I like the cut of your jib. Wanna dance? 🙂
Maybe we should – it’s just turned midnight and it’s my birthday!
Congratulations! Hope you have a good one.
Rambo’s spook is surely trapped in history, digging up the long dead corpse of the Kahan affair. This is precisely the kind of backward thinking holding Fiji back.
Indian birthrates have been lower than Fijian birthrates since the late 1960s. Do your research if you do not believe me. Current Indian birthrates are lower than Fijian birthrates. Plus Indians continue to migrate in high numbers. At the moment, Indian population is 37.5 percent. In the next 20 years, it is forecast to decline by another 10 percent to 27.5 and so forth.
Some Indians are addicted to Fiji and they will die here, come what may. But most, especially the young ones, want out.
Stop wasting time on imaginary threats. The real threat is high crime rate, prison population, school dropout, marijuanna use and alcoholism among strong, young Fijians. Are you so blind? This is what is tearing Fijians apart. It is dispossessing young Fijians and their families of culture, lotu and community, not Indians.
In order to prepare for a good future, we need to address these long-standing issues instead of wasting time punching at shadows.
Ask why Fijians are facing these problems when they own all the resources, held government throughout Fiji’s history, benefitted from affirmative action, dominate the civil service, etc. They have all this going for them. So why are they sadly lagging?
Who is to blame? Who has failed? Parents? Chiefs? Church? Government? Your politicians? Indians? Indians are accused of being grabbers. Who is grabbing large chunks of Fijian Holdings for their families while leaving leftovers for the massess?
Stop scapegoating. It is a form of denial. You never get to the bottom problem, so forget about solving it.
I agree with Tagi ni Taukei. The Indo-Fijian fascist Victor Lal had escaped by the skin of his neck our hangman’s noose for treason regarding that arms shipment because our very one – Ratu Meli Vesikula, the leader of the nationalist Taukei Movement which led the fight for our rights before the 1987 coups, afterwards fell under the spell (dollars) of the religious far-right Moral Rearmament, a front for Gujerati businessmen in Fiji, and passed on highly sensitive documents relating to Victor Lal, to his lawyers in London.
Victor Lal was on top of our most wanted list of enemies abroad and was wanted for arrest on various charges – treason to gun running – yes, go and ask Ratu Meli Vesikula – where is this Tailevu chief – he is up there with Frank Bainimarama pushing his agenda for Indo-Fijian control of Fiji since 2006
Victor Lal was the intellectual “shadow” behind the legitimate anti-taukei movement, for he and other Fijians wanted one and only one thing, as Ratu Inoke Kubuabola rightly pointed out in 2001:
“Victor Lal’s articles all have a simple, indeed simplistic stance, restore Chaudhry and impose democracy as defined by Lal and his friends. What he is advocating is an Indian supremacist doctrine, a new version of Hitlerian herrenvolk for Fiji. The racism lies in his desires, not those of us Fijians. His obsession to control Fiji.”
Aiyaz Sayed Khaiyum is incarnation of Victor Lal. Wake up, i-taukei. Stop crying over our plight. Action speaks louder than words.
blinds him to his own ambitions.”
@ Rambo’s Spook
The only people who should have been hanged and who escaped the hangman’s noose are Rabuka and George Speight etc.
And who were the ‘intellectual shadows’ (your words) behind the Taukei Movement?
Filipe Bole, Inoke Kubuabola, Bill Gonelevu, Manasa Lasaro, Meli Vesikula etc.
The first two have seen the light and changed their tune. Meli Vesikula, like Rabuka, has publicly apologised and admitted their their actions and behaviour at the time (1987) were wrong.
“Herrenvolk”? Jeez, you must have been really inspired by your readings of ‘Mein Kampf’.
You really need help. Please self report yourself to St Giles and ask for a dose of anti-hallucigens. I am sure it will change your view of the world, especially with regard to Fiji and its attempt to break free of the shackles of narrow provincialism that you still cling to.
Victor Lal was the intellectual “shadow” behind the legitimate anti-taukei movement, for he and other Fijians wanted one and only one thing, as Ratu Inoke Kubuabola rightly pointed out in 2001:
“Victor Lal’s articles all have a simple, indeed simplistic stance, restore Chaudhry and impose democracy as defined by Lal and his friends. What he is advocating is an Indian supremacist doctrine, a new version of Hitlerian herrenvolk for Fiji. The racism lies in his desires, not those of us Fijians. His obsession to control Fiji blinds him to his own ambitions.”.
Aiyaz Sayed Khaiyum is incarnation of Victor Lal. Wake up, i-taukei. Stop crying over our plight. Action speaks louder than words.
Those shipment of arms, whether Victor Lal was behind it or not, had changed the balance of Rabuka’s terror in Fiji, and had saved Indo-Fijians from a possible bloodbath.
If Victor saheb was involved, I would like one day to lie prostrate at his feet. I had never seen Rabuka and his henchmen so frightened of their lives. The arms finally brought him to the negotiating table, even though it took some time for the racist 1990 Constitution to disappear from Fiji.
We may recall that Rabuka had hastily brought in the most draconian of measures in the form of the Internal Security Decree, that was signed by his paramount chief and illegal President, the late Ratu Sir Penaia Ganilau.
Sitiveni Rabuka, as Minister for Internal Security, had an extraordinary range of powers:
Order the detention of any persons for up two years
Order restriction of movement, freedom of expression, employment, residence or activity
Prohibit the printing, publication, sale, issue, circulation or possession of any written material, and prohibit its communication through word of mouth
Require approval for any form of entertainment or exhibition
Close down schools or educational institutions for up to six months and forbid or restrict the movement of teachers or students
Proclaim any area as a security danger, or control area, whereupon a curfew may be imposed by any police officer above the rank of sergeant
Order the possession or destruction of land and buildings in security areas
Confiscate items of food or other supplies.
If Victor Lal was involved, Jai Hind, for we went through torture, rape of our women, and were beaten, forced to stand in sewage pools. We could not even worship in temples and mosques.
If Rabuka had the temerity to call us “heathens” I must call Victor Lal a “hero” – those arms changed our plight, from being helpless victims to Indo-Fijian freedom fighters
The Bhagavad Gita does not condone helplessness and weakness in the face of injustice and wickedness. According to the scripture it is the duty of every individual to protect himself from the wicked acts of evil forces.
Those “Guns of Lautoka” were for us to be protected from the wicked racism of Sitiveni Rabuka and others of the same faith.
The only regret I have is that I would have preferred Victor Lal to lead us from the front than that $2million chorwa Mahendra Pal Chaudhry
Indo-Fijian Freedom Fighter
You should go and prostrate at the feet of Tailevu chief and Bainimarama crony Ratu Meli Vesikula.
It was he who had helped Victor Lal escape the charges for which we wanted him in Fiji since 1987:
Conspiracy relating to an intention to engage in a hostile activity in a foreign state!
I-taukei, listen to our tagis, before it is too late! Aiyaz Sayed Khaiyum must be stopped!
@ Rambo’s Spook
Ratu Meli is a 70 year old man living out his sunset years in Tailevu. He was a ruthless and fearsome leader of the taukei Movement in 1987, the group that raped and pillaged in the aftermath of Rabuka’s coup. He also led the booing and public shouting down of Governor General Ratu Penaia at the GCC meeting at the New Suva Town Hall, after which Rabuka with his guru (Kamisese Mara) at his side proclaimed to the Fijian people ‘Sa noda na qaqa” (we are victorious).
Ratu Meli then became a minister in Rabuka’s cabinet with all the other avowed taukei movement leaders (Inoke Kubuabola, Filipe Bole, Litia Cakobau, Saki Butadroka etc etc).
Althiough Rabuka claimed victory for the taukei, nothing really changed for them. The taukei who were supposed to be victorious continuted to make up the majority of the prison population, squatter settlements, crime statitics etc. hey still did under Qarase – only the Fijian elite benefitted in milking the system eg the Qarase case and Fijian holdings where 80% of FHL shares were given to certain well conneected taukei individuals and their families.
Ratu Meli, like Rabuka now, are suffering from a symptom that psychologists refer to as ‘relevance deprivation’. They pop evrywhere trying to make themselves relevant but people ignore them coz they are no longer relevant.
You are wasting your time in trying to make him relevant to the current situation. I am sure Frank is not so dumb as to align himself with Ratu Meli who has nothing to offer and is no longer a rallying figure for radical Fijian (taukei) ethnonationalism. He is happily enjoying his kai koso (cockles) vakalolo at his village in Verata.
So what are your ‘tagi’s?
Na cava mada dou tagica tiko? (what are you crying for?)
Please tell us
Pious, they’re like the cattle in the famous “Bukumakau” song of our childhood:
“Tagi, tagi tiko ni raici au, moo moo moo moo mai”. ( Crying and crying as it looks at me, mooing and mooing).
Just as loud and just as pointless when the truth is that the i’Taukei have got nothing to bleat about.
They own most of the land, they’re in the majority and always will be. How on earth can they be dispossessed? It’s supremacist bullshit.
If Victor Lal was part of the shadowy group in 1988 which plotted to overthrow Sitveni Rabuka and his racist policies than I applaud him, for he, like countless others, had to take that step, and the same applies to Aiyaz Sayed Khaiyum, if his policies will mean a non-racial playing field.
@ Rambo’s Spook
Whats wrong with a multiracial Fiji where everyone is equal under the law, where everyone has the same opportunity in life and where hardwork and merit are recognised and rewarded?
Your idea that taukei land etc will be taken away from them etc is the same old hoary chestnut that no one, except you, believes in.
Go take a shower and rid yourself of all that 1980’s scum that still clings to you
While it’s fascinating in a perverse way to revisit some of these ghosts of the past, it’s also rather sad. Because it’s pretty clear that a lot of people haven’t been able to move on. But by far the worst tragedy is that some educated people – people who are clearly well read and articulate – are hostage to the most primitive and irrational fears of dispossession by so-called foreigners whose families have been born in Fiji for generations.
This “tagi of the vanua” is complete nonsense – a propaganda construct by those who seek to manipulate others for their own base purposes and to spread fear and distrust. If educated i’Taukei think this way, then God help the ordinary men and women who take their cues from their elders and betters. They are being led by blind prejudice down dark alleyways by these intellectual savages when instead they ought to be embracing a vision of a bright future of multiracial cooperation. Each citizen working together as one nation.
Graham,
I happened to be in England at the time of the coup, visiting some i-taukei relatives. I must admit I was among countless other Fijians who cheered Sitiveni Rabuka when I saw him on the balcony of the Suva City Hall claiming “We have won”. A few hours later I saw one Victor Lal appear on one of the British television channels to take on Rabuka’s spokesman in military uniform Isikelo Mataitoga head on. The question he asked disarmed the interviewer and our relatives: How many generations does it take one to become native? Yes, and stated, my own ancestors can be traced back to 1879 in Fiji. He lambasted, I cant remember whether it was Aussie or Kiwi High Commissioner to London (sorry for memory loss) saying what right does it give in our part of the world to call yourselves Australians and New Zealanders and when it comes to us, you want to continue with the tag Fiji Indian; basically this Victor Lal chap was saying he was Fijian of Indian origin, like the Whites in our part of the world. I turned to my family and said, Dina, Dina. I never again endorsed Rabuka or other ethno-nationalists – Vinaka, Victor, for opening my heart and head on that fateful night in London